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Hi Fred,
The nofollow link relationship was introduced in January 2005 as a way for content publishers to indicate a piece of content present on their site is not created by the original author and should therefore not receive the weight of regular page content. If I author an article on my favorite hiking spots I control the content and the links, but other authors may add their own content as a comment supplemental material.
Comment links are not an all-or-nothing maneuver in today's content management systems and blog platforms. My weblog is powered by Movable Type, which allows for three different classes of commenters.
- User data provided in a form field. Name, e-mail, and URL are common, and on my blog I require at least a name and an e-mail address.
- Signed-in user with a TypeKey account
- "Trusted commenter" status granted to a user with a verified identity provider such as TypeKey.
The presence of a weighted link should not influence the dialog and commentary on my site. Removing a weighted link can align these motivations with how I would like my community to participate, meaning it's all about the content. First-time contributors are placed in a moderation queue for my own determination of relevancy, and long-term community members may optionally sign-in using a service such as TypeKey and be granted "Trusted commenter" privileges inside of the comment section of the blog. In the future OpenID may be another option.
Managing a comment queue is tricky enough without worrying about link-building behaviors. You'll receive no weighted citations on my pages by simply filling out and submitting a form.
See also: Google AdSense section targeting.
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I don't think its such a bad thing if a link back serves as motivation for comments, as long as the commenter contributes something to the discussion. And as far as spam goes, the Akismet plugin really does the trick. Fred, I think you backtracked a bit in your reply to Niall. As a way of getting traction, comments on good blogs are a fairly effective way of getting new people to check you out.
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This is a nice initiative you've started. However, the problem wont be dealt with, unless blog software / system providers such as WordPress actually stop making the "nofollow" a default setting in all new blogs.
... most newbies dont know about Nofollow and don't care whether links on their blogs are followed or not.
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Fred;
You convinced me...and I turned off the no follow tag in my blog. I definitely agree the Akismet plug-in does a great job of eliminating most of the spam.
I also don't see the incentive of the link as a bad thing for commenters since anything not contributing to the conversation can be removed (I have no problem deleting any comment that isn't on topic).
If this does cause additional problems, I'll make whatever change is needed and let you know.
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Fred,
I will check it out... it appears though Wordpress doesn't support a simple switch to turn it on or off and I hate to do hack and slash. Perhaps someone can clarify?
-Jim
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That's great software!
The Magician
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this is too kool..fight spam..not blogs..right on
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After reading this I'm going to remove the nofollow from my blogs. Thanks
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Hey Fred,
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate that alot as I know nothing about it until I read this post.
Thanks!
Erwin Tan
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This was a big decision when we started our blog. It came down to you have to pass the link love out to the guys posting. Like you said it isn't helping cut down the spam, why not pass the PR.
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Hi Fred,
Too me a while to get to it on my "Action List", but I've finaly removed no-follow on my blog too.
Eric Graham
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This is great! I really hope this campaign will work! It worked for me!
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I agree totally with your post. I use Drupal for my blogs, which does not automatically set the no follow attribute by default, unlike Wordpress. If someone is going to go through the hassle of leaving a comment, and therefore adding value to a blog post, then the least the author can do is allow a bit of link love in return.
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i think this blog should be added to bumpzee do follow category
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Hi, I have found your blog via the "how search engines treat nofollow" article you mention. This really changed my thinking about the nofollow attribute and i have removed it from my blogs.
It has been working very well so far (four days), I will have to see if this results in more spam in the future though.
Thanks for the informative post.
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i have two blogs i dont know how to do it for blogspot i will find out a way its totally unfair as blogging is a social activity and comments too.
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This is always the catch-22 of do follow. With do follow you get more comments = more visitors = hopefully more money. However, you get some spam within the comments, but hopefully not so many that it bogs you down.
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Fred,
You learn something new everyday. I was not aware that NOFOLLOW was the default for Wordpress comments. I have downloaded and installed the DOFOLLOW plugin.
Thanks for setting me straight!
- Dan Moran
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Hi Fred,
I just discovered your blog via the link from Dan Morans new Internet Business Bench blog and I am impressed with the content you have here.
I certainly had no idea about this 'no-follow' stuff - so thanks for this - it's great information.
I use WordPress for my blog and I've taken your advice and installed the dofollow plug-in.
Regards
Dave Ovenden
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I actually got a plugin for all my blogs as soon as they were placed online. If anyone actually think Google made the nofollow rule to stop spamming they are sadly misguided... is was definitely made so they could monitor flow of PageRank of which they could not do through javascript.
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I think if you actually moderate your blogs then the No follow is not needed at all. I do not use them.
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have always had the no follow removed since i only started wordpress recently, problem is i'm in such a niche that and multilanguage/culture that comments, traffic analysis etc makes for a depressing fact sometimes :)
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Fred,
I have a wordpress.com free blog site, and Akismet comes pre-installed. It is a SWEET tool.
I have taken all of the spam that Akismet catches and moved them to static pages inside the blog. But I keep the rel="nofollow" attribute on the links.
I had to turn off trackbacks because of blog scrapers. I'm still being scraped, but not nearly as bad as before.
I'm not sure if someone with a free wordpress blog can remove the "nofollow" from legit comments.
Fight the good fight!
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I see a moral part here also .
When you get done laughing read on...
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The no follow would stop blog link spam ,sure, and if your into it would stop helping out a compatible site.
I believe helping others,or NOT helping others is what the old addage is saying from the Bible you reap whatsoever you sow.You want to steal from someones elses hard work (blog link spam) then thats what comes back around for you.Also if you want to be tight fisted and un-giving as in helping others out then thats what comes back to you also...
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I'm not an SEO expert or anything but your theory doesn't make 100% sense to me only in that it's kind of like saying, "We can't stop spammers, we shouldn't try and prevent them". I know you say you can catch most spammers, but surely the no-follow tag takes away the incentive. Eventually they would realise that they are getting no benefit don't you think?
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Hi, thanks for the tutorial on removing the nofollow tag. It is true, I have the nofollow tag and I still get robot spam. There are pretty good filters and our moderation skills to help us fight this.
The nofollow still only affects Google though. Yahoo still counts them as a link.
Maybe removing the nofollow could get some promotion to blog couldn't it?
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Fred, now this is an old post and lots of people have removed and then again added the no-follow tag to their blogs due to spam.
You link to the plugin called dofollow but I believe that I have read somewhere to edit the no-follow tag right out of wordpress.
Unfortunately at this point in time I can't seem to find it. Is there anybody else that knows how to do that? (I'm against to many plugins).
Mikael
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I love the concept and the idea. Problem is, I've been on the other side, were I've gotten 100's, if not 1,000's of comment spams. Yes, Akismet does a great job at catching spam, but it also "catches" many of the good comments. I for one don't have the time to moderate to pull out the good ones.
We know the spammers are smart, who's to say their bots do not crawl looking for blogs that do not have nofollow?
I don't have enough time in the day to get everything done, so I have to draw the line somewhere to make the most of the time I have.
In a perfect world....
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Thanks for this - I found it from Tim Gross' Blog. I'll be implementing this right away on the blog I manage for a partner. Good stuff!
Shawn
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I'm gonna give it a try on my 2 blogs and see how much spam I will get. :)
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I have a few older blogs I will try to promote by removing the nofollow tags. I never had a real problem with it, as long as you read the comments and make sure you delete the spam. Besides people spam even with nofollow tags.
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The no follow would stop blog link spam ,sure, and if your into it would stop helping out a compatible site.
I believe helping others,or NOT helping others is what the old addage is saying from the Bible you reap whatsoever you sow.You want to steal from someones elses hard work (blog link spam) then thats what comes back around for you.Also if you want to be tight fisted and un-giving as in helping others out then thats what comes back to you also...
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Hey Fred - I just installed the Semiologic plug-in and activated it.
So I'm assuming both my blogs no longer have the no-follow attribute on links in the comment section.
I just viewed my page source code and everything seems to look good. (It now says rel='external' in the outbound comment links code.)
Thanks for the encouragement to get this done!
Ryan
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Thx fred to your nofollow free blog, but i'm just wondering how this nofollo free plugin affecting your PR or even your SERP in google SE?
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Hi Fred,
I followed this from your main blog - just out of curiosity. I hadn't realised that Wordpress automatically adds nofollow to posts - in this case ignorance wasn't bliss because I want people to benefit if they take the time and trouble to stop by, read and comment.
I don't get huge numbers of comments and although Akisment catches some SPAM it's not excessive enough to have become unmanageable as yet (anyway I've delegated that particular job of approving comments ;) ).
Am I right in saying that URLs within the posts themselves are effectively treated as dofollows?
And - am I right in thinking that any comments that were already posted before activating the dofollow plug-in will not be updated, it will only benefit new commenters?
Thanks for the 'heads-up' Fred.
Carol
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Hey Man i agree the nofollow sucks!!!!
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I think allowing do folliw is good, but allowing people to comment on your blog with names like "Internet Marketing" and "plumber plumbing electrician electrics" really devalues a blog.
Whenever i get comments from spammy names, i always just remove the link and change their name to Joe smith or somthing.
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Fred - thanks for your post on this. I would like the option of turning on the no follow tag - I thought it was arrogant - and still is for WordPress to make it default.
All it would take is a simple explanation and toggle switch in the dashboard to turn it on or turn it off.
Spam has nothing to do with it.
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Old post, but couldn't help leaving a comment to pat you on the back. This whole 'nofollow' thing has really gotten out of hand as a means of pleasing Google, which is really ironic since they preach building websites for visitors and search engines.
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Again another pat on the back. That's you removed the nofollow tag. Also I like the nofollow fight spam not blogs banner you made.